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Possible pavement treatments to deter skateboarders

  • 1.  Possible pavement treatments to deter skateboarders

    Posted 7 days ago
    Hi All

    Does anyone have any experience on pavement treatments that deter skateboarders out of carpark buildings after hours? Or any other ideas or solutions that have or haven't worked for them? Without constant 24 hour security patrolling the carpark building, we are at a bit of a loss as to how we can keep the carpark free after hours. The noise (particularly from boarders) is beginning to become disruptive and an annoyance to the neighbouring residents, which we are getting numerous complaints a week from. With the design, we would only be able to close off upper levels of the building but boarders will be able to jump boom gates or barriers and the like.
    Appreciate any experiences - good and bad - from those who have had similar issues to deal with in the community.

    Thanks,
    Megan

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    Megan Schlotjes
    Northern Beaches Council
    Manager Asset Strategy Planning & Performance
    DEE WHY
    Australia
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  • 2.  RE: Possible pavement treatments to deter skateboarders

    Posted 5 days ago
    Hi

    I read your post with interest.  It somewhat depends on the attraction for the context for treatment.  Nonetheless, I have observed that exposed aggregate paths are uncomfortable and avoided by skateboarders.  This can be expensive, and the deterrent has to be large enough so that skateboarders cannot avoid / jump it.  These treatments are not being used in footpath now generally due to cost, maintenance and comfort for other users (particularly wheeled users and people walking in high heels).  Other options could be a moderately rough chip sealed surface, which also may have better skid resistance than the exposed aggregate.  There are  some seal patch products that have been laid to deter burnouts which may also be feasible to lay.  What ever it is it will need to be safe and durable within the car park setting, particularly for ramps and bends,

    You could consider further treatments; such as barriers on multiple levels if it is the ramps are the attraction.  There has also been some success with deterring people inhabiting an area by playing music that competes with their own taste.  Another option could be to provide an alternative for them to use, albeit this I have found seldom easy or practical to achieve.  Possibly double glazing / noise insulation could be a lower cost option for the extent of the affected neighbours is modest; this is likely to have issues for both sides but just putting it out there and may be able to be part of the solution.

    All the best in solving your issue.

    Regards



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    Glenn Connelly
    Manawatu District Council
    Feilding
    New Zealand
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  • 3.  RE: Possible pavement treatments to deter skateboarders

    Posted 4 days ago

    Hi Megan,

    If you can't beat them, join them.

    Why not try to flip the problem on its head instead? I understand that your team is at a loss to prevent them but maybe the skateboarders see this area as a complete waste of an asset at night when it is no longer being used. There could be a real opportunity here to present this space as something that is convivial and inclusive for all. You may find that the BCA of inclusion as opposed to determent could be more beneficial but to do this you need to see it as a considered option. Perhaps there is a need within the local area to give young people a space that gives them a viable alternative locally, otherwise it sounds like the very expensive option of replacing the pavement treatment.

    Glenn makes a valid option with this too.

    Good luck,
    Tim



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    Tim Sparkman
    Icon Water
    Mitchell
    Australia
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  • 4.  RE: Possible pavement treatments to deter skateboarders

    Posted 3 days ago
    No personal engineering treatments to recommend.

    However check out various literature on designing out crime or managing social misbehavior in public spaces.  Possible deterrence from wanting to use the space or encouraging better behavior might work.

    To deter them consider making it uncomfortable or inappropriate to use the site - a gritty pavement surface paint, remove or obstruct anything they can use as a rail using deterrence (sensor controlled flashing lights and noise alarms possibly not appropriate given the neighbors but what about complete darkness), security cameras

    Alternatively can you provide a nearby more appropriate facility that is more attractive.  Could you mitigate the issue by allowing the activity at certain times (say 6pm-8pm only).

    The trick would be to identify why the site is attractive and motivate them to move on or behave better

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    Graham Lantzke
    Principal Asset Engineer
    WSP Pty Ltd
    graham.lantzke@wsp.com
    PERTH WA
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