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​Hi All,

I am currently looking at rates for K&C Renewals for accurate budgeting purposes and bench marking. Does anyone have rates ($lm) for B2 Kerb and Channel Renewal Projects in built up areas?

Ideally I'm looking for rates associated with works completed in accordance Vic Roads Standards However I am also keen to hear what standards other Councils adopt for Quality purposes and rates associated with the works at the implemented standards.. All inclusive of the following:

- Service Locating
- Removal and Disposal of existing K&C and Asphalt
- Excavation and Prep (75mm or 100mm Class 2 FCR Base compacted to 95% Modified)
- Installation of 100mm Agi Drain
- Construction of New K&C
- Backfill and Compaction front of Kerb (Class 2 FCR compacted to 98% Modified)
- Reinstatement of Asphalt
- Reinstatement of Topsoil (Back of Kerb)

Any information of Crossover costs would also be appreciated 125mm thick

I'm interested to know what width everyone excavates in front of Kerb? We struggled to get 98% Mod unless we excavate 1000mm in front and utilise a DPU or Roller to Compact

Thanks in advance

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Neil Schryver
Co-ordinator Construction
City Works
City Services
City City of Greater Geelong
P: 03 5272 4280
M: 0427 734 643
E: nschryver@geelongcity.vic.gov.au

Office Location - 30 GHERINGHAP ST GEELONG
PO BOX 104 GEELONG VIC 3220 AUSTRALIA
WWW.GEELONGAUSTRALIA.COM.AU
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​

HI Neil,

​Brownfield rates for Kerb at Campaspe is sitting at $457 as an average over the last two financial years that we have enough data on (17/18 and 18/19). All but Agi Drain is included out of the list of items you mentioned.

The standard road cut out for Campaspe is 700mm in front of kerb unless greater cut out Is required for road cross fall grades. We don't put as much emphasis on reaching that compaction % as the amount of rock going back in is a better pavement than exists.

hope that helps a little.
Original Message:
Sent: 15 August 2019 02:47
From: Neil Schryver
Subject: Kerb & Channel Renewal Rates

​Hi All,

I am currently looking at rates for K&C Renewals for accurate budgeting purposes and bench marking. Does anyone have rates ($lm) for B2 Kerb and Channel Renewal Projects in built up areas?

Ideally I'm looking for rates associated with works completed in accordance Vic Roads Standards However I am also keen to hear what standards other Councils adopt for Quality purposes and rates associated with the works at the implemented standards.. All inclusive of the following:

- Service Locating
- Removal and Disposal of existing K&C and Asphalt
- Excavation and Prep (75mm or 100mm Class 2 FCR Base compacted to 95% Modified)
- Installation of 100mm Agi Drain
- Construction of New K&C
- Backfill and Compaction front of Kerb (Class 2 FCR compacted to 98% Modified)
- Reinstatement of Asphalt
- Reinstatement of Topsoil (Back of Kerb)

Any information of Crossover costs would also be appreciated 125mm thick

I'm interested to know what width everyone excavates in front of Kerb? We struggled to get 98% Mod unless we excavate 1000mm in front and utilise a DPU or Roller to Compact

Thanks in advance

------------------------------
Neil Schryver
Co-ordinator Construction
City Works
City Services
City City of Greater Geelong
P: 03 5272 4280
M: 0427 734 643
E: nschryver@geelongcity.vic.gov.au

Office Location - 30 GHERINGHAP ST GEELONG
PO BOX 104 GEELONG VIC 3220 AUSTRALIA
WWW.GEELONGAUSTRALIA.COM.AU
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​

Thanks Shannon this does help.

Are Brownfield K&C works completed in-house or outsourced to contractors?

Do you have rates related to road renewals ​300mm pavement design, 40/30mm asphalt?

Thanks Again
Neil

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Neil Schryver
Co-ordinator Construction
City Works
City Services
City City of Greater Geelong
P: 03 5272 4280
M: 0427 734 643
E: nschryver@geelongcity.vic.gov.au

Office Location - 30 GHERINGHAP ST GEELONG
PO BOX 104 GEELONG VIC 3220 AUSTRALIA
WWW.GEELONGAUSTRALIA.COM.AU
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Original Message:
Sent: 18 August 2019 19:12
From: Shannon Galea
Subject: Kerb & Channel Renewal Rates

HI Neil,

​Brownfield rates for Kerb at Campaspe is sitting at $457 as an average over the last two financial years that we have enough data on (17/18 and 18/19). All but Agi Drain is included out of the list of items you mentioned.

The standard road cut out for Campaspe is 700mm in front of kerb unless greater cut out Is required for road cross fall grades. We don't put as much emphasis on reaching that compaction % as the amount of rock going back in is a better pavement than exists.

hope that helps a little.
Original Message:
Sent: 15 August 2019 02:47
From: Neil Schryver
Subject: Kerb & Channel Renewal Rates

​Hi All,

I am currently looking at rates for K&C Renewals for accurate budgeting purposes and bench marking. Does anyone have rates ($lm) for B2 Kerb and Channel Renewal Projects in built up areas?

Ideally I'm looking for rates associated with works completed in accordance Vic Roads Standards However I am also keen to hear what standards other Councils adopt for Quality purposes and rates associated with the works at the implemented standards.. All inclusive of the following:

- Service Locating
- Removal and Disposal of existing K&C and Asphalt
- Excavation and Prep (75mm or 100mm Class 2 FCR Base compacted to 95% Modified)
- Installation of 100mm Agi Drain
- Construction of New K&C
- Backfill and Compaction front of Kerb (Class 2 FCR compacted to 98% Modified)
- Reinstatement of Asphalt
- Reinstatement of Topsoil (Back of Kerb)

Any information of Crossover costs would also be appreciated 125mm thick

I'm interested to know what width everyone excavates in front of Kerb? We struggled to get 98% Mod unless we excavate 1000mm in front and utilise a DPU or Roller to Compact

Thanks in advance

------------------------------
Neil Schryver
Co-ordinator Construction
City Works
City Services
City City of Greater Geelong
P: 03 5272 4280
M: 0427 734 643
E: nschryver@geelongcity.vic.gov.au

Office Location - 30 GHERINGHAP ST GEELONG
PO BOX 104 GEELONG VIC 3220 AUSTRALIA
WWW.GEELONGAUSTRALIA.COM.AU
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​

Hi Neil,

I have sent you an e-mail with some rates.

Most of the projects that we have used to get our brownfield rates are external constructed, we are trying to change how the internal crew prices their projects to be able to confidently separate costs between asset types and pull out brownfield prices.

Thanks​
Original Message:
Sent: 20 August 2019 21:48
From: Neil Schryver
Subject: Kerb & Channel Renewal Rates

Thanks Shannon this does help.

Are Brownfield K&C works completed in-house or outsourced to contractors?

Do you have rates related to road renewals ​300mm pavement design, 40/30mm asphalt?

Thanks Again
Neil

------------------------------
Neil Schryver
Co-ordinator Construction
City Works
City Services
City City of Greater Geelong
P: 03 5272 4280
M: 0427 734 643
E: nschryver@geelongcity.vic.gov.au

Office Location - 30 GHERINGHAP ST GEELONG
PO BOX 104 GEELONG VIC 3220 AUSTRALIA
WWW.GEELONGAUSTRALIA.COM.AU

Original Message:
Sent: 18 August 2019 19:12
From: Shannon Galea
Subject: Kerb & Channel Renewal Rates

HI Neil,

​Brownfield rates for Kerb at Campaspe is sitting at $457 as an average over the last two financial years that we have enough data on (17/18 and 18/19). All but Agi Drain is included out of the list of items you mentioned.

The standard road cut out for Campaspe is 700mm in front of kerb unless greater cut out Is required for road cross fall grades. We don't put as much emphasis on reaching that compaction % as the amount of rock going back in is a better pavement than exists.

hope that helps a little.
Original Message:
Sent: 15 August 2019 02:47
From: Neil Schryver
Subject: Kerb & Channel Renewal Rates

​Hi All,

I am currently looking at rates for K&C Renewals for accurate budgeting purposes and bench marking. Does anyone have rates ($lm) for B2 Kerb and Channel Renewal Projects in built up areas?

Ideally I'm looking for rates associated with works completed in accordance Vic Roads Standards However I am also keen to hear what standards other Councils adopt for Quality purposes and rates associated with the works at the implemented standards.. All inclusive of the following:

- Service Locating
- Removal and Disposal of existing K&C and Asphalt
- Excavation and Prep (75mm or 100mm Class 2 FCR Base compacted to 95% Modified)
- Installation of 100mm Agi Drain
- Construction of New K&C
- Backfill and Compaction front of Kerb (Class 2 FCR compacted to 98% Modified)
- Reinstatement of Asphalt
- Reinstatement of Topsoil (Back of Kerb)

Any information of Crossover costs would also be appreciated 125mm thick

I'm interested to know what width everyone excavates in front of Kerb? We struggled to get 98% Mod unless we excavate 1000mm in front and utilise a DPU or Roller to Compact

Thanks in advance

------------------------------
Neil Schryver
Co-ordinator Construction
City Works
City Services
City City of Greater Geelong
P: 03 5272 4280
M: 0427 734 643
E: nschryver@geelongcity.vic.gov.au

Office Location - 30 GHERINGHAP ST GEELONG
PO BOX 104 GEELONG VIC 3220 AUSTRALIA
WWW.GEELONGAUSTRALIA.COM.AU
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