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Erosion and Sedimentation Control Requirements

  • 1.  Erosion and Sedimentation Control Requirements

    Posted 09 December 2018 15:39
    ​Council is looking to upgrade ESC planning and delivery requirements for external and internally delivered projectsand is seeking comment on general requirements applied by other Councils

    Do you require all DA/Contract delivered projects to have ESC plans developed by CPESC certified professionals or other alternatives ?
    For internally delivered projects under Councils capital works programs do you require the same certification or an alternative ?

    Any assistance you could provide would be appreciated

    Graeme Hawes
    Manager Technical Services
    Mackay Regional Council


  • 2.  RE: Erosion and Sedimentation Control Requirements

    Posted 15 January 2019 00:52
    G'day Graeme,

    In our experience designers specify one of two standards on their drawings or specifications.  These being:

    1. IPWEA Standard Drawings DS-040 or DS-041 (most common for Council projects) or
    2. Best practice erosion and sediment control, IESC Australasia (more common on Main Road related projects).

    I don't recall ever coming across a requirement where the ESC Plan had to be specifically certified by qualified ESC planner (unless of course that's included in the standards). And as a contract Administrator, I've never enforced a requirement to have the Plan drawn up by a certified person.

    For my money the IPWEA docs are the way to go mate for both internal and external works.

    Cheers. Ricey


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  • 3.  RE: Erosion and Sedimentation Control Requirements

    Posted 16 January 2019 21:12

    HI Sean,

    It's been a while and I am not in the area anymore, but about 4 years ago some of the Sunshine Coast Councils made it compulsory in their jurisdictions. I imagine it still is.

    Cheers

     

    Shaun Johnston

    Manager Water & Waste Water
    Burdekin Shire Council

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  • 4.  RE: Erosion and Sedimentation Control Requirements

    Posted 17 January 2019 22:13

    Hi Shaun

    Yes it has been a while and I am sure you are excelling.

    And YES all Council's in SEQ have made it compulsory for ESC Reporting and Certified Plans signed off by RPEQ or Certified person.

    Most are also working to the International Standards, hope this helps

    Regards

    Sean Sandford
    Director
    SCG Urban



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    Email: s.sandford@scgurban.com.au
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  • 5.  RE: Erosion and Sedimentation Control Requirements

    Posted 17 January 2019 20:26
    Recent changes to the AusSpec documentation introduced the CPESC requirements.  We have required it for one contract from a risk perspective, this was to demonstrate compliance with a referral decision under sections 75 and 77A of the Federal Environmental Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act.  The CPESC qualification currently sets a high benchmark due to the lack of a critical mass of people with the qualification.  We are proactively asking people to conform, while acknowledging the difficulties.



  • 6.  RE: Erosion and Sedimentation Control Requirements

    Posted 17 January 2019 21:26
    Hi Graeme ,
    Probably off the track a little but may add to the discussion
     A number of councils say that is mandatory for a  CPESC certified professional in the process But this is a very high benchmark and no one can really understand why for implementation.  Investigation and Design I can partially see the reasoning and for,   but for actual construction or maintenance side it seems a bit over the top... hence I believe the  small take up in the accreditation.
     I looked deeper into this 2 years ago because more councils were specifying this as a requirement with little or no understanding what they were asking. It almost seems an almost impossible hurdle for contractors to jump ... and I think a blind eye is being turned in some cases. There are very limited alternative accreditations allowed by the same councils.  ..
    There are a couple of VET courses more suited to construction or maintenance that should be approved or allowed by council which are very good for the construction areas or smaller job design and planning as well as being more achievable.