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Energy Audit at Works Depot

  • 1.  Energy Audit at Works Depot

    Posted 28 May 2019 18:30
    G'day Mates,

    I need to facilitate an Energy Audit at a Council Depot with the aim of looking at the benefits of renewable energy sources. ie Solar.  Can anyone recommend a firm that specialises in providing this type of service to Local Government, and perhaps the process you went through to engage them.

    Thanks in Advance.

    Cheers. Ricey

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    Sean Rice
    BE (Civil) MBA (TechMgt) CPEng NER RPEQ FIPWEAQ
    Managing Director
    Proterra Group
    E: sean.rice@proterragroup.com.au
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  • 2.  RE: Energy Audit at Works Depot

    Posted 29 May 2019 20:44
    Hi Sean,
    Michael ?Fullilove? (sorry not 100% on the spelling and don't have his details any more) at LGAQ ​gives a great service in this area. Saved us fortunes at my previous council. And charges little to nothing. Makes engagement a very simple thing too.
    Cheers

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    Shaun Johnston
    Manager Water & Waste Water
    Burdekin Shire Council
    Shaun.johnston@burdekin.qld.gov.au
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  • 3.  RE: Energy Audit at Works Depot

    Posted 29 May 2019 22:04
    Great stuff thanks Shaun much appreciated.
    I'm also getting quite a few recommendations from Councils for Ben Humphries of Hum Energy for those who are interested in this stuff.

    Cheers. Ricey

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    BE (Civil) MBA (TechMgt) CPEng NER RPEQ FIPWEAQ
    Managing Director
    Proterra Group
    E: sean.rice@proterragroup.com.au
    M: 0488 715 700
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  • 4.  RE: Energy Audit at Works Depot

    Posted 30 May 2019 00:00
    ​Hi Sean,

    What location (State/city) are you looking at?

    We have engaged a couple of companies to provide such audits ranging from $5k to $30k depending on the scope. We have worked with them to discuss the way the facilities are used and what the benefit is in terms of return on investment (ROI).

    Typically this has been a 5 year cut-off, and have looked holistically at solar, air-conditioning usage, lighting, gas systems, insulation, etc. They have provided good reports with some benefits able to realized very quickly and others with a 10-20 year ROI. Most of the solar recommendations had a ROI of 4.5-5 years based on conservative energy charges.

    No doubt the size and scope will determine your engagement process.

    Additionally we did some water audits on a couple of our bus depots. This was done internally based on the usage from water bills, the site rainfall information from BoM and the site catchment areas. Online programs such Tankulator can help speed things up. We found the ROI to be  20-30 years due to the commercial water rates being lower $ / kL. These preliminary investigations saved us time and money when




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    DPTI (South Australia)
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  • 5.  RE: Energy Audit at Works Depot

    Posted 30 May 2019 01:39
    Out in Quilpie QLD mate. Thanks very much for the info.

    Cheers Ricey

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    Sean Rice
    BE (Civil) MBA (TechMgt) CPEng NER RPEQ FIPWEAQ
    Managing Director
    Proterra Group
    E: sean.rice@proterragroup.com.au
    M: 0488 715 700
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  • 6.  RE: Energy Audit at Works Depot

    Posted 30 May 2019 21:38
    ​Hi Sean

    Not knowing where the depot you refer to is located, some of this information may be redundant. Shire of Mundaring is located in the Perth outer metro region, so the consultant we've engaged is probably relevant to Western Australia, and not nationally available. However, that would be a subject of discussion between you and he direct. If you require that consultant's details, please contact me direct.

    I was concerned about making sure we engaged someone who had no ties (and therefore no resulting conflict of interest) with installers and suppliers of renewable energy products. We enquired through other consultants - architectural and electrical engineering - as to who was out there in the field with the required background in renewable energy, and not involved with specific suppliers.

    Unfortunately there were not many names available. One of the three names we had recommended to us had a direct involvement with an installer, and another ruled himself out because he felt he would have a perceived conflict of interest. The third name, the consultant we have engaged, is totally independent. We sought quotations from this consultant for a fixed price fee proposal to carry out the assessment, energy audit, design, specification documentation and superintendence of the later contract for installation.

    One of those contracts has now been successfully completed, and work is progressing on audits on a further two major facilities. The first contract completed was a complex and difficult one, involving rectification of an existing PV system installed a few years ago by a firm that no longer exists. The remaining two will be new installations which will be relatively straightforward.

    Regards

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    Rene Baur
    Manager Building Assets
    Shire of Mundaring, WA
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  • 7.  RE: Energy Audit at Works Depot

    Posted 04 June 2019 18:17
    Thats great thanks mate. Really appreciate your help.

    Cheers. Ricey

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    BE (Civil) MBA (TechMgt) CPEng NER RPEQ FIPWEAQ
    Managing Director
    Proterra Group
    E: sean.rice@proterragroup.com.au
    M: 0488 715 700
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  • 8.  RE: Energy Audit at Works Depot

    Posted 02 June 2019 19:31
    Solar is a bit of a no brainer if you have a good location better to spend your money on installation costs than an audit.
    Forget about water saving  if you h​ave a desal plant power equals water and the sun shines more that it rains.
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  • 9.  RE: Energy Audit at Works Depot

    Posted 04 June 2019 00:51
    ​Make sure you have done energy efficiency at the site first. i.e review lighting etc we've halved our energy consumption at sites by replacing with LEDs (last longer too so save on maintenance). This then lets you put in a smaller solar system, reducing its upfront cost.
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  • 10.  RE: Energy Audit at Works Depot

    Posted 04 June 2019 18:17
    Awesome thanks Amber.

    Cheers. Ricey

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    BE (Civil) MBA (TechMgt) CPEng NER RPEQ FIPWEAQ
    Managing Director
    Proterra Group
    E: sean.rice@proterragroup.com.au
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  • 11.  RE: Energy Audit at Works Depot

    Posted 04 June 2019 18:17
    Good on you Michael thanks for that mate.

    Cheers. Ricey

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    BE (Civil) MBA (TechMgt) CPEng NER RPEQ FIPWEAQ
    Managing Director
    Proterra Group
    E: sean.rice@proterragroup.com.au
    M: 0488 715 700
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  • 12.  RE: Energy Audit at Works Depot

    Posted 18 June 2019 18:16
    Hi Sean,

    I work for QPWS and we had Solar Hybrid Solutions do a complete site audit for our Remote area power stations at 19 + Ranger bases across the state. They have done a great job completing detailed energy audits, highlighting safety issues, mtce regimes and repair recommendations / costings etc. with practical solutions for a standardised hybrid system/s. Very detailed reports and understanding of our scope and needs. Highly recommend them and great to work with. Cherrie-kee
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  • 13.  RE: Energy Audit at Works Depot

    Posted 19 June 2019 22:45
    Thanks very much Cherrie-kee. Much appreciated.

    Cheers. Ricey

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    Sean Rice
    BE (Civil) MBA (TechMgt) CPEng NER RPEQ FIPWEAQ
    Managing Director
    Proterra Group
    E: sean.rice@proterragroup.com.au
    M: 0488 715 700
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  • 14.  RE: Energy Audit at Works Depot

    Posted 20 June 2019 21:16
    Hi Sean

    Presume looking at 1 site?
    Irrespective, I would run a 2 stage process
    Stage 1 - A desktop audit to find out what you are dealing with and also to check if on appropriate tariffs etc as need to establish/confirm baseline data.
    Stage 2- Depending on Stage 1 outcomes, then seek EOI's /tenders within local govt tendering requirements.

    We can assist if need be.

    Good luck

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    Trans Tasman Energy Group
    200 Alexandra Parade, Fitzroy, VIC 3065
    T: 03 9418 3907 | F: 03 9418 3940 | E: cmarschall@tteg.com.au | W: www.tteg.com.au

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